#dev | Logs for 2019-10-06

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[16:44:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FYI: Just did a sudo pkill -9 rustbot on beryllium; was non-responsive again; see contemporaneous info in #fite
[16:44:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> kay
[16:48:22] <Bytram> If it happens again... any command(s) I should issue to get a better idea of what it was up to?
[17:00:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> not unless you can code in rust and know how to compile and swap out a debug build for a release build
[17:01:57] <Bytram> nah, I was thinking of cmds I could issue to beryllium to better assess what it is doing at the time. CPU-bound. Locked in an i/o wait, etc.
[17:03:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really, no
[17:03:54] <Bytram> no invocations, of, say ps or psgrep or ...
[17:07:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> wouldn't tell you anything useful, no.
[17:09:03] <Bytram> I would think there would be some kind of command that would reveal when a process was started, how much file I/o it has performed, how much system and user level cpu it has used? At least I have tools to do that on Windows.
[17:09:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure but none of that is particularly useful
[17:10:34] <Bytram> if there were a cron job that each day dumped the bots "status" to a log, and the day it "locks" up, the CPU has dramatically gone up, that would tell me that it got stuck in some kind of spin loop.
[17:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but what would "it's stuck in some infinite loop" help anything?
[17:11:19] <Bytram> IOW, record/tally "normal" behavior and watch for aberrations
[17:12:03] <Bytram> well, it would reduce the search space of what could be going wrong to stuff that's in a loop?
[17:12:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> knowing where in the code it's fubar is useful but any knowledge short of that is just noise.
[17:12:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, rust breaks in very informative ways when it breaks. assuming you have a debug build running.
[17:13:38] <Bytram> just trying to see if there was anything I could bring to bear to help in problem isolation; it IS a useful bot and
[17:13:58] <Bytram> trying to do something with it when it has gone sideways...
[17:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, magic me up the time and desire to poke it with a stick.
[17:14:13] <Bytram> well, not so fun although we do *generally* have alternatives to most things.
[17:14:35] <Bytram> what you been up to? House building/fixing? hope it is going well for ya!
[17:15:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> well enough. once we get water lines plumbed (not much to do) and the downstairs wired (a few days once it's sufficiently framed) we can get the utilities cut on.
[17:16:05] <Bytram> Sounds like you've made a lot of progress!
[17:16:24] <Bytram> That'll help get the utilities installed.
[17:16:32] <Bytram> Makes working on the job site a bit easier.
[17:16:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, not especially. contractors don't wanna work and TR is constantly out of town.
[17:16:54] <Bytram> oh, ok.
[17:16:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> will save headaches once we get water n power though.
[17:17:02] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:17:23] <Bytram> Wait, it must have had utilities before, no?
[17:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure. all the wiring had to come out and ditto the plumbing though.
[17:17:47] <Bytram> oooooh.
[17:17:56] <Bytram> find any knob-and-tube wiring?
[17:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, normal old romex
[17:18:11] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:18:28] <Bytram> I bet you're gonna go for at least 20 AMP lines to each receptacle?
[17:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> heck no. 20A for the whole circuit not one outlet.
[17:20:36] <Bytram> oh, yes. Glad you got what I meant and not what I said^W wrote!
[17:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> even i can't find a use for 20A on one cord
[17:21:03] <Bytram> *laugher*
[17:21:14] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: s/$/ yet./
[17:21:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[17:21:30] <Bytram> ~sed on
[17:21:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, i'm gettin rather napish. gonna bugger off.
[17:22:00] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:22:04] <Bytram> kinda the same here
[17:22:08] <Bytram> nice chatting with ya
[17:22:13] <Bytram> ciao for now
[17:22:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> .op
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[17:22:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> .deop
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[17:22:52] <Bytram> might as well make it official
[17:22:56] <Bytram> break time for me