#dev | Logs for 2017-02-21

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[00:12:08] <Bytram> paulej72: okaaaaay, I'm trying to reconcile your statement with what is on the user's comments page https://dev.soylentnews.org which states for Threshold: "Comments scored less than this setting will be ignored. Anonymous posts start at 0, logged in posts start at 1. Moderators add and subtract points according to the Guidelines"
[00:12:09] <aqu4>  ^ "3Log In"
[00:12:41] <Bytram> and for Breakthrough which states: "Comments scoring this are displayed even if they are in a collapsed thread."
[00:13:41] <Bytram> The UI suggests that Threshold does something, the comments page suggests Threshold does something, and yet I see here " threshold does not change anything on tos or flat."
[00:18:07] <Bytram> .
[00:19:30] <Bytram> Separately, I'm still seeing TLCs displayed no matter what score they have and what Threshold/Breakthrough is selected.
[00:19:33] <Bytram> TNG: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[00:19:35] <aqu4>  ^ "320170215e - Test Story - Please DO NOT Moderate and DO NOT Post Comments - Comment Score Testing - Dev.SN"
[00:20:02] <Bytram> TOS: https://dev.soylentnews.org
[00:20:05] <aqu4>  ^ "320170215e - Test Story - Please DO NOT Moderate and DO NOT Post Comments - Comment Score Testing - Dev.SN"
[00:21:24] <Bytram> both of those URLs set T:5 and B:5 and both show TLC Comment_0000 (Score -1) and TLC Comment_0021 (Score -1) as fully expanded.
[01:28:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, paulej72 is correct but there's not enough room to write out a manual on the settings page.
[01:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept he got TOS and TNG backwards
[01:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> threshold has no effect on TNG or Flat. on TOS it hides comments behind a below your threshold message.
[01:30:22] <Bytram> hmm, well having a statement on the setting page about threshold that is flat out incorrect, if I am understanding things correctly now, isn't ideal, either. ""Comments scored less than this setting will be ignored."
[01:30:51] <Bytram> xsry, didn't see ur 2nd line -- I was looking at scrollback
[01:32:11] * Bytram steps back for a bit to reflect on the additional information.
[01:37:19] <Bytram> is there a way, based on the selected mode, to to make the Threshold control [in]visible?
[01:38:51] <Bytram> i was talking about the actual story page, btw, but the answer may inform what we do on the user's comments prefs, too.
[01:39:38] <Bytram> or, maybe better "gray out" the threshold control when the user has selected 'Flat' or 'TNG' ?
[01:39:39] <chromas> display:none ? OR you mean something else?
[01:40:36] <Bytram> am brainstorming atm -- display: none OR maybe display with opacity at, say, 60%
[01:41:22] <Bytram> just trying to find a way to covey, in a simple fashion, that the Threshold only modifies TOS atm (right?)
[01:44:04] <Bytram> on 2nd thought graying out the threshold control sends wrong message -- it appears that there IS a setting, but it cannot be changed.... better to display:none on threshold control if it is, in fact, ineffective
[01:53:55] <Bytram> One can reasonably assume that when the user clicks on the "Change" button, and we receive the request, that we can ignore whatever we want to, or make use of whatever we want to (IOW there may be spurious, unused name/value pair(s) in the post data) -- if THAT is acceptable, then it becomes a UI issue on how to expose only those controls that are effective in the selected Mode
[01:55:40] <Bytram> Do mind that there *is* the "[x] Save" checkbox which updates settings on the User's Comments Preference page
[02:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> there is i *think* but that's a wishlist thing being as it would take funky, funky css to make it happen.
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[13:43:23] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Read your reply and have been pondering on it, sorry I didn't immediately say thanks!
[13:43:27] <Bytram> stil pondering btw
[13:45:29] <Bytram> am waiting on non-special-case for top-level comment display... have an appt in about an hour but hope to check back in later... prolly 4-5 hours from now, barring any surprises, of course.
[13:46:26] <Bytram> do not treat Comment_0000 and Commment_0021 specially in these two cases:
[13:46:38] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:46:40] <aqu4>  ^ "320170215e - Test Story - Please DO NOT Moderate and DO NOT Post Comments - Comment Score Testing - Dev.SN"
[13:46:45] <Bytram> https://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:46:47] <aqu4>  ^ "320170215e - Test Story - Please DO NOT Moderate and DO NOT Post Comments - Comment Score Testing - Dev.SN"
[13:47:57] <Bytram> would appreciate a ping when code is updated so I know when is okay to resume testing
[13:48:06] <Bytram> laters
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